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		<title>Comment on Open Your Mind to Skepticism by AllinTime2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllinTime2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Randi Stuff is old....See what Rev. Popoff is doing now....Recently Rev. Peter Popoff launched a free medical outpatient children&#039;s hospital staffed by doctors who are believers and powerful witnesses for Christ. This was a major sign to unbelievers that the love and compassion of Jesus Christ is real and working in the earth today! http://ow.ly/1dj5Y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Randi Stuff is old&#8230;.See what Rev. Popoff is doing now&#8230;.Recently Rev. Peter Popoff launched a free medical outpatient children&#8217;s hospital staffed by doctors who are believers and powerful witnesses for Christ. This was a major sign to unbelievers that the love and compassion of Jesus Christ is real and working in the earth today! <a href="http://ow.ly/1dj5Y" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/1dj5Y</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Join Us by Marc Petrick</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceandreason.ca/join-us/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Petrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to hearing from you as to when I can join</description>
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		<title>Comment on Lies about Canadian health care by Jason Hanley</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceandreason.ca/uncategorized/lies-about-canadian-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh.  The US health care nonsense makes me so angry.  I&#039;ve written extensively about this several times before:
- http://blog.jasonhanley.com/2009/02/healthcare-canada-vs-usa.html
- http://blog.jasonhanley.com/2009/03/real-usa-healthcare-experience.html
- http://knol.google.com/k/jason-hanley/healthcare-canada-vs-usa/2835fomdmeawm/5

Thanks for bringing attention to this again.  Now if only the mainstream media could pick up on it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh.  The US health care nonsense makes me so angry.  I&#8217;ve written extensively about this several times before:<br />
- <a href="http://blog.jasonhanley.com/2009/02/healthcare-canada-vs-usa.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.jasonhanley.com/2009/02/healthcare-canada-vs-usa.html</a><br />
- <a href="http://blog.jasonhanley.com/2009/03/real-usa-healthcare-experience.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.jasonhanley.com/2009/03/real-usa-healthcare-experience.html</a><br />
- <a href="http://knol.google.com/k/jason-hanley/healthcare-canada-vs-usa/2835fomdmeawm/5" rel="nofollow">http://knol.google.com/k/jason-hanley/healthcare-canada-vs-usa/2835fomdmeawm/5</a></p>
<p>Thanks for bringing attention to this again.  Now if only the mainstream media could pick up on it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheers &amp; Jeers by Canadian Blood Services and Blood Astrology &#171; Saskatchewan Skeptics</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceandreason.ca/cheers-jeers/cheers-jeers/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Blood Services and Blood Astrology &#171; Saskatchewan Skeptics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Association for Science and Reason.  The Ottawa Skeptics has [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Join Us by Galen Thurber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galen Thurber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Join Us by Galen Thurber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galen Thurber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Atlantic Canada Skeptics</description>
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		<title>Comment on Alphabiotics from the neck up by Tristram Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristram Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear David, thanks for your reply. I will address your points as best I can.

David wrote: &quot;If not, he certainly had a very close association with the practice, as noted here http://www.upcspine.com/PDF/Chrane.pdf&quot;

Tristram&#039;s reply: That article is misleading for it reviews a process called the Chrane Condyle Lift which was created by Virgil Chrane Sr. (not to be confused with Virgil Chrane Jr. the founder of Alphabiotics). The Condyle Lift is unrelated to Developmental Alphabiotics. 

David wrote: &quot;My research doesn’t indicate that Alphabiotics International is in any way the only governing body for the practice. There are others, and since it is not a legally recognized profession there can be no such claim by AI, therefore the point is not really relevant.&quot;

Tristram&#039;s reply: I would love to see your &#039;research&#039; on the matter perhaps you could post some of it here?. I can only speak for Alphabiotics International. Whether other people claim to be offering the same service or not, does not in any way mean they are offering the same service. I&#039;m not sure what a legally recognized profession is, perhaps you could clarify? 

David wrote: &quot;Why do they speak cautiously? Medical researchers will be cautious when testing and evaluating a new drug or treatment, but once it is accepted the literature will detail the methodology and effects. Medical schools do not speak cautiously about what the training is or how it works.&quot;

Tristram&#039;s reply: The use of cautious wording reflects a difficulty to convey using language what is beyond the mind&#039;s ability to comprehend. This is hoped to be improved in time.

David wrote: &quot;Why does it talk in flowery prose such as “Alphabiotics is considered by many to be a breakthrough discovery in the evolution of consciousness; a significant step forward in the technology of human potential; a real way for people to find joy, inner peace, and meaning in life and living. It was introduced as a thoroughly proven, reality based, non-temporal, hands-on helping profession in 1971.”

Tristram&#039;s reply: That the prose seems flowery is obviously your opinion. The claims made in that sentence are fairly accurate based on my experience.

David Wrote: &quot;Have these “extraordinary personal changes” been written up in a peer-reviewed medical journal? If it is so wonderful and effective it would be nice of alphabioticists to bring this new treatment to more people and help ease the stress and suffering in the world. And where did I claim that it was supernatural? I merely said that it was pseudoscience. So is homeopathy, but there is no supernatural quality implied, just a complete lack of scientific understanding. However alphabiotics, I suspect, does stray into the supernatural, as evidenced by these claims from the web site of Alphabiotics International:

Tristram&#039;s reply: Alphabiotics is not a medical procedure, nor is a therapy. It has been not been written up in any peer reviewed medical journals to the best of my knowledge. I&#039;m not sure why this would ever happen as Alphabiotics is not a medical service, treatment or health process of any description. I am a confused that you say &quot;If it is so wonderful and effective it would be nice of alphabioticists to bring this new treatment to more people and help ease the stress and suffering in the world.&quot; because Alphabiotics is readily available now. We welcome people to receive the service. 

David wrote: No serious person could claim that the idea of a god is anything other than supernatural, and to claim that such an entity can effect changes in our world moves your interpretation of alphabiotics firmly into the supernatural realm.

Tristram&#039;s reply: What is meant by &#039;a serious person&#039;? References to God may or may not represent &#039;supernatural&#039; but that is unanswerable. Being unable to perceive God, does not negate God.

Kind regards

Tristram Brown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear David, thanks for your reply. I will address your points as best I can.</p>
<p>David wrote: &#8220;If not, he certainly had a very close association with the practice, as noted here <a href="http://www.upcspine.com/PDF/Chrane.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.upcspine.com/PDF/Chrane.pdf</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Tristram&#8217;s reply: That article is misleading for it reviews a process called the Chrane Condyle Lift which was created by Virgil Chrane Sr. (not to be confused with Virgil Chrane Jr. the founder of Alphabiotics). The Condyle Lift is unrelated to Developmental Alphabiotics. </p>
<p>David wrote: &#8220;My research doesn’t indicate that Alphabiotics International is in any way the only governing body for the practice. There are others, and since it is not a legally recognized profession there can be no such claim by AI, therefore the point is not really relevant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tristram&#8217;s reply: I would love to see your &#8216;research&#8217; on the matter perhaps you could post some of it here?. I can only speak for Alphabiotics International. Whether other people claim to be offering the same service or not, does not in any way mean they are offering the same service. I&#8217;m not sure what a legally recognized profession is, perhaps you could clarify? </p>
<p>David wrote: &#8220;Why do they speak cautiously? Medical researchers will be cautious when testing and evaluating a new drug or treatment, but once it is accepted the literature will detail the methodology and effects. Medical schools do not speak cautiously about what the training is or how it works.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tristram&#8217;s reply: The use of cautious wording reflects a difficulty to convey using language what is beyond the mind&#8217;s ability to comprehend. This is hoped to be improved in time.</p>
<p>David wrote: &#8220;Why does it talk in flowery prose such as “Alphabiotics is considered by many to be a breakthrough discovery in the evolution of consciousness; a significant step forward in the technology of human potential; a real way for people to find joy, inner peace, and meaning in life and living. It was introduced as a thoroughly proven, reality based, non-temporal, hands-on helping profession in 1971.”</p>
<p>Tristram&#8217;s reply: That the prose seems flowery is obviously your opinion. The claims made in that sentence are fairly accurate based on my experience.</p>
<p>David Wrote: &#8220;Have these “extraordinary personal changes” been written up in a peer-reviewed medical journal? If it is so wonderful and effective it would be nice of alphabioticists to bring this new treatment to more people and help ease the stress and suffering in the world. And where did I claim that it was supernatural? I merely said that it was pseudoscience. So is homeopathy, but there is no supernatural quality implied, just a complete lack of scientific understanding. However alphabiotics, I suspect, does stray into the supernatural, as evidenced by these claims from the web site of Alphabiotics International:</p>
<p>Tristram&#8217;s reply: Alphabiotics is not a medical procedure, nor is a therapy. It has been not been written up in any peer reviewed medical journals to the best of my knowledge. I&#8217;m not sure why this would ever happen as Alphabiotics is not a medical service, treatment or health process of any description. I am a confused that you say &#8220;If it is so wonderful and effective it would be nice of alphabioticists to bring this new treatment to more people and help ease the stress and suffering in the world.&#8221; because Alphabiotics is readily available now. We welcome people to receive the service. </p>
<p>David wrote: No serious person could claim that the idea of a god is anything other than supernatural, and to claim that such an entity can effect changes in our world moves your interpretation of alphabiotics firmly into the supernatural realm.</p>
<p>Tristram&#8217;s reply: What is meant by &#8216;a serious person&#8217;? References to God may or may not represent &#8217;supernatural&#8217; but that is unanswerable. Being unable to perceive God, does not negate God.</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Tristram Brown</p>
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		<title>Comment on Join Us by ARM*BAR Athletics</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARM*BAR Athletics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank Tou</description>
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		<title>Comment on Cheers &amp; Jeers by Ian M. Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian M. Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does not seem to be allowing me to post a URL.  Let me try again:

http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/page/E_Type+A?OpenDocument</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does not seem to be allowing me to post a URL.  Let me try again:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/page/E_Type+A?OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/page/E_Type+A?OpenDocument</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheers &amp; Jeers by Ian M. Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian M. Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be a link so that readers may see the offending material for themselves, e.g.:

.  

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be a link so that readers may see the offending material for themselves, e.g.:</p>
<p>.  </p>
<p>Ian</p>
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